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So now those who file ethics complaints are "terrorists?" **UPDATED**

by: Celtic Diva

Thu Jul 09, 2009 at 11:42:30 AM AKDT




****************************************UPDATE*********************************

Hat-tip to "midnightcajun"--he mentioned in the comments below an interview with whack-job John Zeigler that Palin did on July 3rd...the day she resigned...where Zeigler called us all "terrorists" and she didn't disagree:

I suspected this had been suggested elsewhere before it made it to Glen's show and I thank midnightcajun for pointing it out.

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Tuesday on the Glen Biegel Half Hour Show (following Eddie Burke on KBYR), Glen had a caller who had some rather...uhhh..."strong" views (from the podcast of 7/7/09):

"...There are tactics that are being used by those left-wing Marxists who hate our country and use our own Constitutional rights against the very fact that are our country.  The whole attack against Governor Palin was done within the parameters of what is legal only because we never, ever had internal terrorists attacking our country using our country."

Glen's response:

No, I agree with you.  Look, they are trying to destroy our system of government.  That is what their goal is and they want to make it the worst thing you can do is to win office.

The definition of domestic terrorism used in U.S. Law is the one found under U.S. Code Title 22, Ch.38, Para. 2656f(d):

(2) the term "terrorism" means premeditated, politically motivated violence perpetrated against noncombatant targets by subnational groups or clandestine agents;

and, under U.S. Criminal Code Title 18 Ch. 113b Para 2331 (emphasis mine):

the term "domestic terrorism" means activities that-

(A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State;
(B) appear to be intended-
(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or
(iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping;

and

(C) occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States.

So, exactly how is holding Sarah Palin accountable to display the same ethical behavior she demanded of the Administration before her (when she filed complaints against Ruedrich and Renkes) a terrorist act?  Under what definition can that be found, exactly?  

Plus, I have not heard Mr. Biegel equate the word "terrorist" with the shooter in the Unitarian Church murders, the assassin of OBGYN and abortion provider George Tiller nor the white supremacist, Obama-hater and Palin-supporter who murdered a guard in the Holocaust Museum.  

Should we infer that, in Biegel's mind, our completely legal, non-violent, non-aggressive citizen activism, initiated to hold Sarah Palin to the standards that she requested in her inauguration speech and again during Troopergate, is somehow worse than all of those murders?

In a related topic, Glen said this in response to the last caller:

The left loves to use offensive language...as offensive as they can possibly make it.

Really?  So, are you saying that "people on the right"...supporters of Sarah Palin especially...detest the use of "offensive language?"  Are you saying that these people are far above using that language in order to insult, threaten or intimidate?

That has not been my experience.

Tuesday, July 7, 2009 10:30:19 PM
From: Ryan Bailey (baileyosu24@yahoo.com)
To: celticdivaak@yahoo.com
Subject:  you+sarah palin=scared little girl

Linda,

You as well as all the other terrified liberals afraid of Sarah Palin will eventually get yours. You are degrading her?! Well darling, you are nothing to look at either. Fat and guarantee you are a lazy no good liberal bitch. You are the reason why this country is going down the drain. But don't worry, when we take it back from the liberals and their white trash followers like you, you'll wish you had never lived.

--An American tired of crying white trash welfare people

Actually, this is one of the milder ones.  I just printed it to point out a) the cursing and insults, b) the threats and c) that I'm not on welfare nor am I on disability, but MY EXPERIENCE with Sarah Palin supporters is they just MAKE IT UP AS THEY GO ALONG.  

That's only one.  There are 600+ more of them in varying degrees.  I'll share a few more.

Tuesday, July 7, 2009 6:24:24 PM
From: Mike McElhone (mmcelhone2003@yahoo.com)
To: celticdivaak@yahoo.com
Subject: you rock

You are a fat cow. I hope you die. If you have kids i hope they are retarded. Die bitch die!!!!!

Of course, Palin supporters aren't limited to cursing, insults and threats of violence...they like to toss in a bit of racism (or, according to KBYR's Eddie Burke, "rascism") for good measure.  Some of them also seem to like attacking my daughter.  

(Note:  The rest of the emails are vile enough that they must be "under the fold" so that whoever wants to read them must click deliberately to do so.)

Celtic Diva :: So now those who file ethics complaints are "terrorists?" **UPDATED**
Tuesday, July 7, 2009 3:32:12 PM
From: Clineedie@aol.com
To: celticdivaak@yahoo.com
Subject: (no subject)

What the hell is wrong with you ? that you hate Sarah Palin so much, you like sucking on those black dicks so much  that your black heart(or lack of one) is so tainted with HATE, You are so UGLY and EVILthat you are going straight to Hell and take your Ugly Black .daughter with  you. BTW, the fund is growing. you sick bitch.

Then there is the direct approach:

Monday, July 6, 2009 10:24:28 AM
From: BobS (hstybuf@pacbell.net)
To:  celticdivaak@yahoo.com
Subject:  What will you do now?

maybe, you should go fuck yourself, you fat ugly cunt.

Or the other direct approach:

Sunday, July 5, 2009
From: LisaSultan@aol.com
To: celticdivaak@yahoo.com
Subject:  (no subject)

Redheaded fat fucking ugly jack ass.

Your face makes me want to puke.

Your a jealous bitch .. you should know how many people hope you fucking rot!

Notice that one of the emails above has a purposefully misleading subject line so that I'll open it.  That's one of their tactics and many of them use it.  

Hmmmm...it's almost like there is an organized effort to "intimidate or coerce a citizen through threats of violence by clandestine agents"...allegedly...

I think, Glen, that you may want to revise your naive opinion as to the language habits and practices of others on the right.  If this isn't enough to convince you, I can print out hundreds of pages for your perusal.

(Note:  The last time I showed some emails and didn't publish the email addresses, my honesty was questioned...the inference was made that I fabricated them.  So, in the spirit of honesty and openness, I've decided to release the email addresses of those who sent the emails.  That way, if anyone has questions about them, they can ask the senders directly.)

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Keep up the great work Linda! (0.00 / 0)
Linda,

Please do not let these assholes get to you. You ARE a beautiful, intelligent, considerate and loving woman with a beautiful daughter,who, by the way, informs people with FACTS. Too bad those neanderthal types are too stupid to actually look at facts and then decide who they want to believe in.
Palin is the quintessential high school bitch. She will say or do anything to be the center of attention. She really believes that she will be elected POTUS. Now that we know her true motive, she has to be stopped. Not that she'd ever survive a GOP primary. What I'm worried about, as are others, is that she literally gets off riling up the crazies in the reich-wing. That is the only thing that scares me. I just watched "Right America/Feeling Wronged" (by Alexandra Pelosi) on HBO, and you can see how much joy she gets from the crazies.
Please keep up the good work on reporting the truth about Palin. Especially her cult like Church. You know those end timers will do anything to reach their Nirvana.


Sorry to hear this, Linda... (0.00 / 0)
... but I can't say I didn't expect this sort of thing from Palin-bots.

For a group that purports to be mostly evangelical Christians they somehow don't seem very Christ-like, do they? No, "love thy neighbor as one would love thyself..." no "turn the other cheek...", no "the kingdom of heaven is NOT of this earth...", no "do unto others as you would have done unto you...", no "worry not about the mote in your neighbor's eye when you can't even see the BEAM (as in timber) in your own..." (paraphrased). It's quite disturbing how they seem to ignore virtually all of his guidance, even to THIS ex-Christian!

It is also one of the main reasons why, even though I was raised a Christian most of my life, I left. Too many false Christians like the ones in your emails who think they can spew all sorts of vile hate and encourage violence against their fellow human beings -- all "in the name of Jesus" -- and then think that no matter what they do or say, ultimately they are pre-forgiven for their 'sins' because they have been born again... because Christ died for their sins.

Perhaps. But to willfully go out and commit 'sins' in a premeditated fashion shows intent to be haughty and proud and judgmental rather than humble in the eyes of God. A thorough re-reading of the cannon of Christianity will show you that only those who approach God and Jesus HUMBLY are forgiven of their sins. According to Christianity, none of us are the arbiters of judgment concerning the sins of our fellow humans -- God is. Any other position is to place yourself in opposition to God and his son, thus why I feel I can be justified in calling them collectively "false Christians".

It's sad actually and only adds to the sum total of all human suffering. Christ DIDN'T die to allow us free reign to abuse and commit violence against our fellow humans! I'll go as far as to say that the attitude these emails are manifesting is diametrically opposed to the message of Christ. They seem Satanic, even -- it's like they're doing everything exactly backwards from what their own savior would want them to do! And before people get on me and say I hate Jesus or Christians I will state unequivocally that I have more knowledge of the Christian God and Jesus than most average people, having read the Bible extensively in English, Greek and Hebrew all my life. I was raised in a very religious Christian family... just because I now identify as a Ch'an Buddhist doesn't mean I forgot everything about Christianity. Nor does it mean that I'm on a jihad against Christians, either. In my eyes, Christians are just potential Buddhists who haven't realized their ability to awaken yet. As are all humans.

What I find MOST distasteful though are some of Christ's followers that seem to have missed the very CORE principles of his worthwhile message. I left because of the rise of evangelical hypocrisy. Preachers of abstinence with pregnant underage daughters, adulterers who flaunt the vows and promises BEFORE GOD when cheating on their wife with their Argentinian mistress. You get the idea. These aren't new issues. Christian hypocrisy has been around almost as long as Christianity itself.

So no I do not hate God, nor do I hate Jesus... I just find a few of their followers to be somehow lacking in the spirit of their own faith. While it's not my place to stand in judgment of them, I chose instead to separate myself from people who would cause even more suffering on Earth in the name of their religion. That, I have an idea, may be the undoing of ALL human civilization. The inability for us to get along and to "do the right thing" as informed by universal ethics, compassion and morality will make us unravel as a planet. People like your emailers appear to be driving that apocalypse bus harder and harder every day as they become more and more desperate to prove that they are the way, the truth and the light. For which we all suffer and even if they have to destroy this planet and every last human being on it to prove it.

-Laz



Typical internet tough-guys (0.00 / 0)
Thank you Linda, for standing up to a corrupt governor and taking the abuse from her fanatical supporters. I don't know how you do it, but I'm glad there are people like you who are tough enough to keep going in the face of all that hatred.  

Hateful email (4.00 / 1)
Linda,

I can't imagine receiving such hateful email.  Please don't let it get to you - consider the source.  I would guess that the writers are afraid of you (and us).  Please continue your brave work and know that there are many who stand with you.

Jan


Good on you! (0.00 / 0)
I noticed right away you revealed the addresses of the folks whose emails you printed.  I hope the friends and relatives and co-workers and neighbors of these delightful "christians" get a snoot-ful.

Thanks to C4P, some of their most ardent groupies shall now be known.


Thank You! (0.00 / 0)
Thank you Linda for all you have done. Not only are there MANY Alaskans who support you, but there are MANY in the Lower 48 who support you as well.

Thank you for sharing a small sampling of the vile hate which you are subjected to.  It comes as no surprise, I expect nothing less from 'good conservative Christian Palinbots".

Some 'odd' things come up when you google a couple of the vile haters email addresses.  


Well this tells us a lot about the Pee Nuts (0.00 / 0)
I'm glad you printed those emails and their senders' addresses. Too bad you can't put them all up on a Pee Nuts' Wall of Shame

Ironically, I heard that "terrorist" remark the day after Sarah's resignation speech, when she gave an interview to her darling Ziegler. He talked about all the "dangerous" attacks on her family, and said "these people are terrorists, really" and she agreed. Somehow in all the hoopla that got missed. I think it needs to be revisited. The Neocons under Bush slapped the word "terrorist" on  any "foreigners" who disliked or simply refused to be pushed around by the US. During the campaign, Sarah hung the label on Obama. Now they're extending it to anyone who tries to stand against them.

I know it sounds extreme, but one can't help but suspect that if these people get elected, anyone who speaks against them will be in danger of being branded a terrorist and sent to Gitmo.


Wow...thanks for the head's up! (0.00 / 0)
I know exactly where to find that interview (rofl)!


Celtic Diva


[ Parent ]
It's now included in an update to the story! (0.00 / 0)
Thanks midnight!  You got a "hat-tip!"


Celtic Diva


[ Parent ]
OMG is the sky falling? (0.00 / 0)
WOW! I actually agree with something Buttercup said! I agree that YES the men and women in uniform are fighting so that people, including you, Shannyn, me and anyone else can STAND UP AND SPEAK OUR MINDS AND HOLD OUR POLITICIANS ACCOUNTABLE AND DEMAND THEY ACT ETHICALLY!!!!! WE DON'T HAVE TO "SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP" and we won't!!!!

She proves what a hypocrite she is on a daily basis, doesn't she?

How about the "dangerous attacks on you and your family" Linda? She's so damn pathetic!!!!



[ Parent ]
The real domestic terrorists are the ones... (0.00 / 0)
...who leave threatening messages on the car windshield of investigative photoanalysts like the car of the woman -- a Anchorage or Wasilla resident, I can't remember which -- who was assisting Audrey of Palin's Deceptions in revealing hidden information in the pictures of Sarah Palin between February 2008 and April 2008.

This woman's family was threatened in the message left on her car windshield, the message saying if she didn't stop doing what she was doing, someone was going to get hurt.  She wasn't hiding her identity, and so, someone stalked her, found her, and threatened her.

She took down ALL her data and photoanalysis off the Internet, and has dropped out of sight.

That's what happens when people like Mike Doogan "out" bloggers who wish to use a pseudonym, and when people like Sarah Palin laugh at talk show hosts calling someone a "cancer" and agreeing with a dingbat like Ziegler who escalates the hate against citizens wanting answers from their government by calling them "terrorists".

I hate what these people are doing to our country.



[ Parent ]
Actually... (0.00 / 0)
.. she was from the south - I don't remember if it was Texas or Arizona - and she WAS trying to hide her identity.
Someone was able to track her down through her ISP or some such thing.
She got scared sh*tless, and took down everything she had - her website with the photos (she was an expert in checking out if something was photo shopped, etc), as well as even her email account.

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youch (0.00 / 0)
These are the same people who delight in cussing at Mormon missionaries and the Jehovah's Witnesses. They do not act like Christians, do they? Are they faithful to spouses who get wider with time? What if they have kids with special needs?

What if SP has a child with special needs because she is such a mean girl? That seems to fit their logic.


Work Emails? (0.00 / 0)
I sort of scanned the responses, but I didn't see this:

Are any of these from work emails?

I wonder how these people's bosses would feel about this?

Years of HR have told me that this is a firing offense, even out of a sterling employee.


Hi Linda! (0.00 / 0)
I have been following you for months.  By now, I feel like you are a friend!  In fact, in the past two weeks we have been in the same place just days apart.

I often read the dark side....and to tell you the truth I am worried about your safety.  These terrible emails inspired me to register and to post to your great blog!

I often wonder if Sarah's followers speak like that after, before, or during their hypocritical visits to their churches.  It boggles the mind.

You have a friend in Kenai and I would love to meet you in person one of these days.  We are off camping tomorrow.  I hope the smoke clears.

Judy  


Glen Biegel, Eddie Burke, Sara Failin etc. (0.00 / 0)
The saying "ignorance is bliss" is usually true, but in the case of people like these it should be "ignorance is schizophrenia". The distorted perceptions they have of reality cause fear, anxiety, and confusion within themselves and we must pray for them to seek professional help. Can anyone posting here imagine living with a mental disorder as debilitating as this? Although statistics show that 99.9 percent of them can never work up the courage to commit what they spew, it's that .1 percent that must keep all of us alert at all times.  

I don't know what to say (0.00 / 0)
I hate to see you receiving these e-mails.  Narrow minded hypocrites are always a plenty.  They think they are superior to the rest of us, isn't that a joke.  But true to form they did not fall to far from the original hypocrite of a quitter governor.  They like her are a disgrace, waste of good oxygen and are without morals.  It is easy for us to say don't worry about what they say, but it hurts and always will.  But just try to understand that this filth will always be trash, because you can clean them up, dress them nice and doesn't change the fact they are still trash!  I don't blame you for publishing the e-mails they seem to be proud of their words of wisdom, losers.

Hypocritical (0.00 / 0)
Isn't it amazing that these people are accusing you of doing the same thing they are doing?

The hate and filth that comes from them is horrible and scary and yes very hypocritical. They think they would be better running the country with this Christian, what values? language? or Christlike behavior ?
Why?

And please, we did have home grown terrorists and many live were lost, fellow Americans who did nothing but go to work for the Federal Government in Oklahoma City.

The tone of a lot of these lunatics is scary, almost the same language, about taking over the country and then we all will be sorry. They just had 8 years of conservative rule and 6 of those years was with a republican held Congress.

Are they talking of a dictatorship like Nazi Germany?
Don't THEY call Obama, Hitler?


They all need to... (0.00 / 0)
In fact each and every one of them (and us for that matter) need to read "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich".

If anything Palin-bots, C4Pee'ers and her most rabid supporters are acting like Brownshirts (look it up if you have to...) in trying to suppress the will of the general population and by acting like total propaganda tools, sometimes using not so veiled hate and threats of violence against their perceived 'enemies'. The racist aspect of it is also quite the Brownshirt modus operandi.

Unfortunately I have an idea that they indeed already HAVE read it and they are actually using it as a guidebook while correcting what they think were some of the mistakes made while prosecuting the war to make the Third Reich supreme. This is not a good thing(tm) for America let alone the entire planet.

History has shown us that the main tactic of the NASDP (Nationalist Aryan Socialist Democratic Party (aka "the Nazi Party"), which was in fact a far right wing presence in Germany at that time and was closer to Fascism) was to first demonize their enemies (see also: Holocaust) and then set the Brownshirts to perform violence upon those targets.  According to history, they were a reaction to the growing influence of the German Communist party. They would whip the Brownshirts up with propaganda (see "Munich Beer Hall Putsch"), arm them and then turn them loose. Sound familiar?

We are gaping into the maw and it is time rationalism and levelheadedness prevails. We must not allow a regression of history back to a darker and uglier time, which is absolutely why government openness, transparency and accountability is of the utmost importance to all. Had people like Linda, Shannyn and AKM been around at the time of Hitler and had the technology for communication and counter-propaganda that the internet provides, Germany may have never ever gotten past their second Reich.

-Laz

(and as is the internet rule, anytime Nazi's are mentioned, the thread of conversation is SO OVER) ;)


[ Parent ]
Not only are the Palinbots acting like Brownshirts... (0.00 / 0)
They employ the age-old tactic of projecting their own misdeeds and lies and hyperbolic name-calling onto their targets...or victims, if you will.

What's the best way to counter these tactics?

Vigilance.  Constant revelations of their lies, backed by facts.  Ads and use of news agencies.

Also, a good in-depth analysis if the political and personal beliefs and statements of the most-listened-so, so-called Mainstream Media talking heads.  It's nice to know who you're dealing with when you send information to the networks and cable news channels.

John King, Dana Bash, and probably Wolf Blitzer are seemingly right-leaning, if one is to judge from their choice of guests and their line of questioning.

Any others that haven't already declared (such as Mary Matalin, the worthless Alex Castellanos), right off the top of your head?  I didn't know it before, but Andrea Mitchell is married to Alan Greenspan.  That might be more of an economic stance than a political one... :)



[ Parent ]
Refusing to see (4.00 / 1)
Linda, I am sorry you are receiving such filth, and I applaud your decision to expose it, including the names of the senders. There are many who refuse to see what their cohorts do, and without someone with guts to offer testimony to it, there would be nothing they could see, even if they were brave enough to look.

The thoughts these people (mostly men?) write belong to them. The beauty of your garden and scenic photos belongs to you. Such a big difference!


Sick minds! (0.00 / 0)
Those conservative xtian palinbots are seriously deranged!  

Notice how juvenile they are, with their name-calling.  And the racism comes shining through!

Please be careful Linda--these sick fockers are dangerous!  


I agree - please be careful! (0.00 / 0)
Also, just for kicks... I would collect all these emails and fw them to the FBI... They are threats to your life and livelyhood and to your family!

[ Parent ]
Vile fans (0.00 / 0)
They are horrible.  Have you considered in addition to forwarding to the FBI, forward each one indiviually to the Governor's email and possibly her spokesman.  It's only right that she & others see what she has caused and see the type of people who support her.    

[ Parent ]
Just my opinion (0.00 / 0)
You're the best!!  You put up with such idiocy and still stand up for all of us.  Big hugs from a fan/friend from the MI.


CD, I know you know this already but... (3.00 / 1)
the nastier the emails you get and the more of them you receive does a whole lot towards validating what you are doing as being "THE EXACT RIGHT THING TO DO"

These racist bigots are trying to communicate with you!

They are reaching deep down into there souls and doing there very best to have a intellectual conversation with you and the results are  painfully obvious.

If you were not correct in what you are doing, they would either ignore you or state there case with facts.

As soon as they resort to character asassination they have lost all hopes of respect and have shown there true ignorant colors.

Last, but not least I would like to remind you that "what doesn't kill you will only make you stronger"

Before long you will be spitting nails!!

Nailin Palin!!

Gotta love it!!

Keep your and your families heads high!

If gino's skin was a fraction as thick as your's, she maybe would'nt keep quitting!

She will never get the backing of any tobacco companies because they hate quitters!

It's one race people and it's called "The Human Race"!


Heh (0.00 / 0)
"It's one race people and it's called "The Human Race"!"

Always good to see a meme that I planted grow up and flourish into a seedling... thanks.

-Laz


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Nasty Emails (0.00 / 0)
Linda,
I am so sorry that Americans behave this way.
I truly feel you should put them all on disk and take them to Alaska State Troopers.
What you are doing would make our founding fathers proud.
I am proud of you and your family for the wonderful support they give to you. I also think you should send these on to the Governors office. She can read what lovely fans she has. Wait until they turn on her, because they will.

Linda (0.00 / 0)
My heart is breaking, and yet at the same time I am filled with a fury I have never before known.  What cowards those people are.  Gutless wonders...all of them.  Filthy pigs...no sense of right or wrong.  Jesus is weeping..truly.

I agree that you must keep these emails.  I would even suggest you send them to law enforcement...somebody.  These people are threatening...something must be done.  You have posted their names and email addys...for that I am glad.  Bring the scum out into the light of day.  Don't let them hurt you anymore.  You are already a fighter of the best and most honourable kind.

Keep going...there are far more of us than them.  Remember that my friend.


[ Parent ]
I'm not surprised (0.00 / 0)
at how awful and vicious those emails are, but I am certainly saddened that people like that exist. Brings to mind that old saying about needing bleach in the gene pool. Not to mention needing to wash out a few mouths with soap.

You rock. (seriously) (0.00 / 0)
Linda,
You are one of the strongest, bravest, most determined women I know.  Hold your head high, and know that the people that love you and support you are the ones that matter.

Even when we disagree, there is no excuse for this. It is no more than a reflection of the mind of the emailer, and of those who want to hate you more than they want to think, and gather information.

Keep doing what you're doing and be true to your heart.  You are supported by so many.


Sickening (0.00 / 0)
These are Palin supporters folks!  This is the kind of people she attracts and can call her fans!  

She is just like them which is why they are so attracted to her in the first place.

Linda as awful as it must be to receive these kinds of things, I agree that this just shows you are doing the right thing.  If you didn't matter they wouldn't bother.

Remember that you and your daughter are BEAUTIFUL inside and out.

Palin and her fans ugliness goes straight to the bone!  


Yes, it is sickening, (0.00 / 0)
but we also have to realize that this type of garbage will be even MORE stirred up once FlailinPalin goes onto her screech tours. She will whip up the bottom of the pond scums,... and THEN I am getting REALLY worried!

I believe these emails should be sent to the FBI and any other Intelligence agency that might be working within the US, and I hope they will follow-up on these threats!


[ Parent ]
ARRRGGGHHH! (0.00 / 0)
I wish there was an editing button...

Anyway: I also would fw these emails to the MSM, or at least to other bloggers, and to Keith Olbermann and others


[ Parent ]
Agreed (0.00 / 0)
I fully agree that there is reason to be concerned and proper precautions should be taken but they cannot stop what they are doing for only in exposing this for what it truly is can it be stopped.

Palin will continue to stir up these hateful people and while I am certain that the bloggers who are on the receiving end of this hate will get a lot more of the anger and hate directed at them, we can make sure that they are  protected, by exposing the hate, and showing how much danger they could potentially be in because of it, but it will do things that Palin hadn't counted on.

A) It will drive away those independents and moderates who are rightfully repulsed by these hate mongers and

B) It will drive more support towards the opposition and

C) It will show people what she is truly like, and the depth of her divisiveness.  

Remember we saw her during a political campaign drive people into a hate frenzy, but many people expect that kind of thing during a campaign.  They expect it will get tough, they expect to see nastiness.

Now it will be different, and it will show those true colors of Palin which she has been trying to hide.  It will also show just what kind of people who are devoted to her are like, it will bring them out in the open, like a nasty little secret that we all knew was there, but is now freely viewed by everyone!


[ Parent ]
Again: (0.00 / 0)
Sorry that you have to read all this garbage, Diva, but I really think you should fw each and every one of those emails to the authorities - AND to their respective ISPs. Especially AOL will not stand for it, and Yahoo doesn't either. Fw the whole emails, with all the tracking info...

glad to help (0.00 / 0)
You're welcome, Linda. But, um, I'm a girl!

Nasty Emails (0.00 / 0)
Diva, I am so sorry you are receiving these nasty emails.  Please have someone else go through your mailbox if it gets too rough.

I'm glad to see you posted the email addresses accompanying their frat boy insults.  Please do document these emails, and forward these ugly threats to the appropriate authorities.

In the meantime, your bravery and class is shining bright.  I am so grateful for your hard work under fire.  Truth is on your side, and it is becoming more apparent each day, as SP is unraveling before our eyes.


Eddie Burke called you a communist today! (0.00 / 0)
For some odd reason I like to torture myself by watching Fox & listening to the Eddie Burke show from tim to time. Today Linda, he mentioned you specifically & to me he sounded vaguely threatening. I'm paraphrasing here but he said that something needs to be done about you, Lea Thompkins & others who defame our "governor". This was right before he signed off by calling you all communists. I just love it when ignorant people hurl cold war era insults that are completely out of context.

He's jealous that I did a post on Glen... (0.00 / 0)
...and that I didn't do one on him!



Celtic Diva


[ Parent ]
Why am I not surprised? (0.00 / 0)
I tune in every once in awhile, because I'm interested in hearing what a guest has to say.  I rarely hear things from Mr. Burke that elevate the level of discourse on any issue.  

What bothers me though, is not the lack of intellectual content, but his hypocrisy when it comes to the comments of callers.  He will not let the smallest slight to his idol, Ms. Palin, go unchallenged, but will allow incredibly vile things to be said about her detractors, including Ms. Moore and Ms. Kellen Biegel.  I am glad that those ladies are able to consider the source and put such comments in perspective.


[ Parent ]
Happy I missed it... (0.00 / 0)
I like Eddie Burke, that is when he's not cussing like a sailor or bashing my idea of the USS Sarah H. Palin.

USS Sarah Palin, CVN-79 & ankle bitin' back!





[ Parent ]
LOL (0.00 / 0)
Off your meds again , Senator McCain? Because YOU'VE been threatening Alaskan progressive bloggers with retaliation from an entire (imaginary) aircraft carrier for awhile now and we're a little concerned for your well being as well as our own...

-Laz


[ Parent ]
and a warning to all... (0.00 / 0)
DO NOT click on the link he provides (the picture of the carrier NOT named the USS Sarah Palin). Not only would you be encouraging his mental illness by providing traffic to his site, you risk the possibility that it leads to a page filled with trojan software, keylogging software, or just plain old fashioned viruses.

Thanks, you've been warned (for your own safety).

-Laz


[ Parent ]
Thanks (0.00 / 0)
That's one smear we take for the Governor.

Great honour Laz.

I hate spyware & adware.  Almost as much as I want this site to feel the other side's heat for you and love for Sarah.




You can smear our Governor Palin


But Sarahcuda is still our hero!


OH MIGHTY BLUE OASIS!


[ Parent ]
I agree with the rest of you (0.00 / 0)
that those emails should be forwarded to their respective ISP's, not to mention the authorities and such. They are way over the top.

Wow, those last few e-mail addresses (0.00 / 0)
pop up in some very bizarre places!

You might consider investing a couple of bucks a month in http://www.emailfinder.com or something similar so that you can assess whether any of these people live nearby.


Emails (0.00 / 0)
Just giving you a virtual hug (((CelticDiva))). And yes, send those emails to the authorities.

I was once the recipient of an unsolicited e-mail... (0.00 / 0)
...from someone I knew, and had met personally, from a baseball message board.  It was hateful and threatening -- the gist of it based on an intense disagreement between one faction on the message board, and another.  She felt one way, I expressed my beliefs and commentary the other way.

Anyway, in the midst of this the two factions were getting pretty riled up, and were making personal remarks about one another.  This e-mail hit a little too close to home, I felt, so I reported on the message board exactly what this person said to me in her e-mail, as an example of how far gone the "hate" and polarization was.

That was the beginning of the end of that message board.  The "other side" defended the hateful comments of their groupie, attacking me for publicizing her nastiness; and "my side" attacked them for, basically, attacking everyone.

My point in telling this story, Linda, is to suggest that you be prepared for even more hateful e-mails maligning you for publicizing the e-mails.

Personally, I feel if someone offends me by sending me a nasty letter or e-mail or picture or anything else, they deserve a public rebuke.  Why wouldn't I want others to know how nasty they are, since it's pretty likely they hide their inner evil from most everybody else?



I agree - (4.00 / 1)
Publish ALL those nasty emails you get, INCLUDING their email addresses. 'OUT' those insane hate mongers for what they are.

Maybe you should put a side eblog where you just put all those emails (no comments allowed, just a 'depository of bile)


[ Parent ]
Fear and hate (0.00 / 0)
Fear and hate are the motto in what remains of the republican party.

Last Sunday Colin Powell said they they still have a problem with racism and he is correct.

You know that these are the folks that continue to wear "the hoods", only now the republicans have given them a public platform.

There will be another or new consertvitive party come 2012.

The current party is only 20% of the population so they have died, now they are stinking and they will be buried before 2012.

I have stated before that I appreciate and respect a conservative point of view.

That is something you can have discourse with.

What remains of the republican party, since they sold their soul to the religious wingnuts are a fearful hate filled terrorists.

That's correct, they ARE the American terrorists.

Anyone who watched their convention last year was more than reminded of Nazi Germany.

When you read this what comes to mind? Scroll down. (thank you Celtic D.):

the term "domestic terrorism" means activities that-
(A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State;
(B) appear to be intended-
(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or
(iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping;

and

(C) occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States.

====================================================

Bush, Cheney, Rice , Murdoch with his Fox news, Rush Limbaugh, John McCain and YES Sarah Palin.

Her "palin' around with terrorists" remarks, "real America" etc., turned her rallies into dangerous hate fests.

The Nazi type chant of USA USA USA, kill him, kill him, only brought a smile to her lips.

It also raised the death threats on Obama considerably according to FBI AND the secret service.

The McCain campaign was well aware AND informed of this by these agencies.

What did they do? They carried on with more of the same.

Sarah Palin by legal definition IS a domestic terrorist.



Thank you to everyone! (0.00 / 0)
I truly did not post these with the intention of causing you all to worry.  Seriously, this has been standard operating procedure since March (Arctic Cat).  They have ebbed and flowed (and their rhetoric has escalated a bit since Palin's resignation) but I've kinda "gotten used to it."  I didn't realize that I had until I saw the outpouring of support you guys have shown (thank you, thank you).

But I want everyone to know...these don't effect my day.  That's why I take the girls to reindeer farms (pictures up later), wildlife parks, swimming, picking veggies, fishing, etc...Nothing is going to stop any of us from enjoying our Alaska summer!  


Celtic Diva


Just want to send virtual hugs... (0.00 / 0)
...and thank you for letting us know you're enjoying your life and your family.

(((Celtic Diva)))


[ Parent ]
Good for you (0.00 / 0)
You need to not be treated like trash.

You also need to stop villianizing a great American in Sarah Palin.  Please.

It is DAMN important to keep politicians accountable, but also the media accountable too.  Vile comments back & forth aren't going to help this effort.

USS Sarah Palin, CVN-79 & ankle bitin' back!





[ Parent ]
I'm sorry.... (0.00 / 0)
but a person who seems to lie every time she opens her mouth about ANYTHING -- yes, I'm talking about your so-called "Great American" Sarah Palin -- does not get my support.

Not only that, whenever I see adoring fans like you praising her pathology, I shall continue to write about the FACTS, DATA, and BACKGROUND information that proves that her lies have been and can still be easily debunked.

I think everyone else here including Linda Kellen feels the same way I do.



[ Parent ]
Palin supporters (0.00 / 0)
The thoughts expressed by these Palin supporters are vile. These are the people Palin is riling up. They are not the future of the world. There are too many intelligent people like Linda shining a light on this stuff.
   

Hate (0.00 / 0)
my dear Celtic D you should not be subjected to this kind of hate.

I'm from Australia, and I got interested in Sarah Palin because of my interest of your last election and President Obama who has all the qualities of a world leader.

Miss Sarah frighten the s**t out of me, and than I found you and Mudflats etc.

Please keep up the good work you do, and remember that you have fans all over the world that wish you luck

Cheers Cherie    


When you make fun of a Down Syndrome's child for being the child of the governor... (0.00 / 1)
Some get carried away with their revenge pal.

As far as I'm concerned, 100,000 tons of diplomacy & hero worship will do the trick.

Let's debate.

USS Sarah Palin, CVN-79 & ankle bitin' back!





No body here or any other Alaska blog... (0.00 / 0)
...has ever made fun of Trig Palin.

In fact, nearly everybody, hundreds of blogger/commenters, has felt badly for the poor tyke, because he was mistreated and hauled around at such a young and vulnerable age during the campaign last fall -- very dangerous for a DS child with a heart condition diagnosed at birth, to be in crowded venues with hot bright lights and high-decibel noise conditions.

You think no one cares about Trig?  Couldn't be farther from the truth.

The Photoshops -- no matter how many times the Palinbots try to make it out to be ridiculing the poor child -- were designed originally by someone not even associated with any Alaska progressive blog, and the one that appeared for a day on this site was related specifically to the fund drive to pay for the Eddie Burke-Sarah Palin-Sheila Toomey e-mails; featuring the face of Eddie Burke in Palin's arms, gazing adoringly up at her smirking face.



[ Parent ]
Yeah, and making photoshops of an infant... (0.00 / 0)
isn't.

Please.

You replied after the last ban.  This time, I have high-tech stealth tech fron Tonopah that I'm allowed to RENT time on to defend America's Governor.




You can smear our Governor Palin


But Sarahcuda is still our hero!


OH MIGHTY BLUE OASIS!


[ Parent ]
Mike McElhone (mmcelhone2003@yahoo.com) is a terrorist (0.00 / 0)
so says I.

Do we feel better now?

Bullies suck you-know-what.

Oh and the Artic Cat complaint?  Can't you pick a better issue or time to fight?  Come on, nobody buys that stuff anymore.

USS Sarah Palin, CVN-79 & ankle bitin' back!





That's the point (0.00 / 0)
Sarah Palin didn't buy that custom-made suit.  

There's some hokey story going around that Todd Palin's partner gave it to him to give to Sarah Palin, but it's personalized with "Sarah" on the left shoulder in professional embroidery, like you'd get at the factory in a custom order -- or a gift prepared by the company for the Palin racing team and their family (Piper was wearing a miniature suit).



[ Parent ]
You know, Senator McCain... (0.00 / 0)
This issue has been discussed over and over again. Your inability to understand that what she did as governor during the Irondog incident VIOLATES state law regarding the acceptance of gifts or compensation over $150 in value while SERVING in her official capacity as governor is pathetic. Anything with a real value that exceeds $150 MUST be declared in public disclosure. She has not. She even raised the canard of those facts being "proprietary or trade secrets" to avoid having to reveal the value of gifts and compensation given to her by Arctic Cat.

You will undoubtedly now say "but the ethics complaint was dropped..." and you would be correct except that it was dropped by an executive branch board which SHE controls. Would you let an arsonist do the investigation of a potential arson FOR the fire department, sir? Sure he might be most expert regarding all things "arson-y" but it would still be considered a conflict of interest.

The SOA Personnel Board has a conflict of interest when Sarah suggests that they are the proper venue for reviewing and prosecuting ethics complaints... they are her direct employees and one of them may have been appointed by her to that board. Open and transparent? Hardly. "Hold me accountable...", says Sarah -- not once but twice. We are trying, if she'd just quit squirming around so much. She's squirming so hard she squirmed her way out of her damn job, sir.

She's a quitter. She "cut and run" before her job was finished and it is laughable that you'd consider her honorable enough to have her name attached to even a scow let alone an entire aircraft carrier. That being said, it'd probably only cost you $100 or so to have someone paint her name for you on your bass boat. As long as it doesn't make your wife mad that you're replacing her name with Sarah's -- the object of your apparent schoolboy fantasy and desire.

-Laz


[ Parent ]
Ignore the Mouthy Pile O' Steel (0.00 / 0)
It has nothing to say, and nothing to add to the conversation. It has a fascination for big metal things. It has no manners - publishing an email address - not acceptable. It does purposeful baiting (making fun of DS baby), not worth talking to. Leave it to flounder.



Don't worry...he's gone again... (0.00 / 0)
Eventually, I'll have every internet cafe IP he goes to banned!


Celtic Diva


[ Parent ]
Personally (0.00 / 0)
I wouldn't ban him but I would block the picture. But it's your place so I support your decision. But "awww shucks ma! Now who am I gonna play with?" ;)

-Laz



[ Parent ]
Oh and BTW... (0.00 / 0)
When does OMFGAK get a listing in your blog roll, dear?!? ;)

-Laz


[ Parent ]
Oh God...I've started to do it about 10 times this week... (4.00 / 1)
...then got distracted.

As soon as we get back from Saturday Market...(kid is literally pulling on my arm right now.


Celtic Diva


[ Parent ]
No worries... (0.00 / 0)
I know you're busy. Thanks again.

-Laz


[ Parent ]




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